We Have Been Challenged

Dr. Andrew Maniotis January, 2008

Good to hear from you! How are those “HAIL MARY” experiments going?

I don’t know exactly how I should feel about you sending me this page of dead “HIV/AIDS” “denialists,”

aidstruth.org/aids-denialists-who-have-died.php

…or if indeed it is you who has sent it to me, other than to demonstrate once again your strong unwavering belief in the “HIV=AIDS” hypothesis, and that toxic medications (that one shouldn’t sprinkle on cornflakes as you had mentioned) are good at suppressing “HIV’s” molecular signature.

I am surprised to hear from you because I didn’t think you wanted to communicate with me. When I wrote you several years ago, you vociferously and rudely announced that you don’t discuss science or anything else with “AIDS denialists” like me?

And I can’t figure out why you are sending this list of men who tragically died, which you use to further your sick agenda, as I also thought that your bunch were hell bent on destroying my career and were still in the process of following through with your threat to “crush each one of us, one at a time,” by writing to our deans, department heads, the presidents of our universities and such about your love of academic freedom and support of free exchange of ideas regarding biology and disease, yet how we should be fired for our views, or “incarcerated” (if you listen to Wainberg)?

And alas John, I am already aware of this excrement you have heaped over the dead you list on this AIDStruth page you have sent me – I saw it more than about a month ago, and am further saddened to see you now have included Kelly Landis, who had been an acquaintance of mine. I don’t think, however, his beloved memory should be tarnished by your vile description of him as “an AIDS denialist.” I’m a denialist, remember, as you did manage, somehow that I can’t figure out, to get and post a private letter I had sent a former U.S. Arizona Senator and author as evidence of my ”denialist” activities, and which I might add, was the best possible thing you could have done for me at that time. I check it from time to time to make sure it is still there as “evidence” I think you will soon live to regret.

But Kelly’s points of view, were not those of an “AIDS denialist,” so you are mistaken or lying about a very intelligent, and articulate individual. A few years back, Kelly did all he could do to block my wife and I from showing Robin Scovill’s movie, “The Other Side of AIDS,” at a public library here in Chicago. He organized a protest of gay men outside the showing. Regarding that documentary, Kelly out-spokenly expressed his disgust regarding what he called “all those self-loathing gay men” in the film, who shared their early experiences of being “HIV” positive some 20 years ago, and how the party never stops life-style that their peers lived, destroyed many lives. Kelly felt that the Chief of Nursing interviewed in the film, for example, was “a self-loathing gay man.” I argued with him repeatedly and forcefully about this “self-loathing” perception of his, as I felt that Kelly was wrong about the meaning of the film, and felt that the Chief of Nursing among other gay men interviewed in the film was among the most articulate spokesman I have ever heard regarding how men and women who avoided self-loathing behaviors (such as drug addiction/alcoholism, toxic anti-retrovirals, antibiotics, and the rest of the immune suppressive life-style behaviors) and practiced hopeful, positive and healthy behaviors, lived, and are still alive today, drug-free and productive. It is a provocative movie to say the least!

The movie, my wife and I felt, was an important testimonial to and for those who lived through those “heady times,” as they have been called, and the documentary convincingly portrayed both gay and straight men and women, and many scientists/doctors who could articulate for themselves what they felt was the cause of so many young men dying, or what in fact had ruined their lives and the lives of their loved ones. It also chronicled what was responsible, for instance, for brain damage in children force fed AZT at gunpoint (similar to ICC but this family in the documentary was white and from Oregon).

Additionally, I recall, Kelly had other strong ideas about the documentary, and I respected him, although we disagreed about the movie’s message. Although we disagreed, Kelly taught me something during our exchanges. He taught me to understand the term and practice of “selective bias” as he called it: which I have found even in my own exchanges with many ”HIV-positives” difficult to truly understand or appreciate, as I haven’t really been handed a death sentence, or been branded a leper with a reportable, prision-convictable illness. Selective bias, according to Kelly, was the racist, homophobic, medical terroristic AIDS Establishment practice of regarding and treating “high risk” folks differently than “low risk” folks, from the standpoint of testing, repeated testing, drugging, and indeed every aspect of the AIDS net that snares, and eventually ruins people’s lives. Audrey Serrano’s story is among the clearest examples of this kind of gross human rights violation practiced by those of you who ”know” the cause of AID$.

To extend the number of victims presented on your webpage of dead victims of AID$ who have listened to your propaganda, you might want to consider that AIDStruth should, in addition, list of all those whose lives have been destroyed by the AIDS religion and industry by the viewpoints and hypotheses of persons like you and Bergman, not only those of we “denialists.” Although you should respect the dead and many find it disgusting what you are doing on this page who don’t even know or care about our little “disagreement,” but because you view it as evidence of the harm we “denialists” are doing by presenting our questions about ”HIV/AIDS,” why not list, in addition, the victims that have been caught up in your “HIV=AIDS” hypothesis?

1. Shouldn’t you include all those whom AID$ INC. has influenced, such as those African women who were dissuaded from breast feeding which resulted in a 20 fold increase in infant mortality compared to breast-fed controls as it was reported late last year?

   On Monday, July 23, 2007, in Nkange, Botswana, it was reported that in Botswana, step to cut AIDS proves a formula for disaster (Craig Timberg Washington Post Foreign Service):

   “Doctors noticed two troubling things about the limp, sunken-eyed children who flooded pediatric wards across Botswana during the rainy season in early 2006: They were dying from diarrhea, a malady that is rarely fatal here. And few of their mothers were breast-feeding, a practice once all but universal.”

   “After the outbreak was over and at least 532 children had died (20 times the usual toll for diarrhea) a team of U.S. investigators solved the terrible riddle.”

   “A decade-long, global push to provide infant formula to mothers with the AIDS virus had backfired in Botswana, leaving children more vulnerable to other, more immediately lethal diseases, the U.S. team found after investigating the outbreak at the request of Botswana‘s government.”

   There’s 532 right dead infants right there for ya to post! That’s way more impressive than the 20 or so gay men you have right now!

2. If you really want to turn some heads, why don’t you list the hundreds of thousands of victims of the nevirapine iatroeugenic trials described by Lockman and Essex last year in which 875,000 mother infant pairs were given a single dose of the black box drug that was withdrawn from the U.S. and which caused a 41.7% increase in “escape mutant” “HIV” signature(s)?

3. Add to AIDStruth list the victims of the microbicide trials of yours and others that have repeatedly been halted because they increase the rate of detecting “HIV’s” molecular signature in many African trials-I count at least 16 trials that have failed (is that accurate or are there more) because the noxious chemicals you want Africans to smear on their genitals causes significant increases in genital ulcers? Hail Mary indeed!

4. To increase the number even more, why not include the victims of the recent STEP trial (or perhaps it is too soon to tabulate the victims for this trial-list AIDSVAX’s victims instead perhaps) in which more who were vaccinated with that ill-defined poison turned up with “HIV’s” molecular signature, although this violates all known knowledge of biology,immunity, vaccinology, and because of which, more vaccinated men are now faced with the carnage that comes with an “HIV-positive” molecular signature? If the STEP trial’s victims of your hypotheses are not yet able to be fully evaluated for the suicides they will in the future commit, for the relationships that you have ruined, for any children or family members of theirs destroyed by their “HIV” molecular signature, etc., you have according to my count, at least 60 other failed and long completed vaccine trials to draw the victims from to put on your AIDStruth denialist page to show how your hypotheses have destroyed, or killed virtually hundreds of thousands, if not several millions of individuals.

5. Don’t forget to include the list of all those hundreds of thousands who died during the high-dose AZT era as chronicled in Hamilton’s Veterans Affairs Trial and countless others, especially the healthy early-treated groups he described, and list those who continue to die today on the ”life-saving” HAART chemotherapy, which according to THE SUCCESS OF HAART-HIV TREATMENT RESPONSE AND PROGNOSIS IN EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA IN THE FIRST DECADE OF HIGHLY ACTIVE ANTIRETROVIRAL THERAPY: A COLLABORATIVE ANALYSIS:

   “Methods: We analyzed data from 22217 treatment-na•ve HIV-1-infected adults who had started HAART and were followed in one of 12 cohort studies. The probablility of reaching 500 or less HIV-1 RNA copies per mL by 6 months, and the change in CD4 cell counts, were analyzed for patients starting HAART in 1995-96, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002-03. The primary endpoints were the hazard ratios for AIDS and for death from all causes in the first year of HAART, which were estimated using Cox regression.”

   “Interpretation: Virological response (read suppression of “HIV’s molecular signature) after starting HAART improved over calander years, but such improvement has not translated into a decrease in mortality.” [The Antiretroviral Therapy (ART) cohort Collaboration-www.thelancet.com Vol 368, 451-58, August 5, 2006].

6. Don’t forget to mention all those killed or maimed by the poisoned lot(s) of viracept and by the dozens and dozens of other recalls:

   On July 23, 2007, and article appeared: “Low-Key Recall of AIDS Drug Hits World‘s Poor,” by Elisabeth Rosenthal:

   “ROME, July 21 – A total recall of an important AIDS drug widely used in developing countries has disrupted treatment for tens of thousands of the world‘s poorest patients, with no clear word from the manufacturer on when shipments will resume.”

   “The recall of the drug, Viracept, by Roche Pharmaceuticals of Switzerland, went largely unnoticed in the developed world when it was announced in early June, after the company had discovered that some batches made at its Swiss plant contained a dangerous chemical. But the recall has caused growing concern among global health officials and in AIDS programs in many poor nations. They say the company did an inadequate job of informing patients and officials about the potential risks and helping them find affordable access to newer alternative drugs.”

   The number of victims of your hypotheses soar in comparison to ours if only you include the recalls. A few of them might include:

   2001 FDA recalls Abbott Laboratories HIV p24 Antigen Test Kit lot 71843M101. ” The failure to deliver the Antibody to HIV-1 (Rabbit) component of the test kit to the reaction well could result in a false negative test. The recall notification instructs establishments that currently have in inventory the recalled product to discontinue use and discard the product.”

   2002 (August 7) FDA recalls Bio-Rad Laboratories Genetic Systems HIV1/HIV-2 Peptide EIA lot 105VP1. “ The recalled test kits are qualitative enzyme immunoassays for the detection of antibodies to HIV-1 and/or HIV-2 in human serum and plasma, and also in cadaveric serum specimens. Microwell plates in this lot that are performing outside of expected performance ranges as indicated by invalid (low) HIV-1 and HIV-2 Positive Controls and elevated Negative Control values.”

   2003 (February 17) FDA recalls antibody to Human Immunodeficiency Virus (Abbott HIVAG-1 Monoclonal EIA Test Kit lot numbers): 92677M200, 92677M201, 92677M202, 95132M100, 95132M101. ” The manufacturer found an increase in the initial reactive rate when compared to historical performance expectations as shown in the package insert. This may result in an increased likelihood of invalid assay runs. Specificity, as defined by repeat reactive rate, and sensitivity continue to meet all performance requirements. Establishments that have the recalled product in inventory are instructed to discontinue use and destroy any remaining product.”

   I’m sure you have personally gone out and warned those folks who took these recalled tests and tested positive that they have nothing to fear but fear itself!

7. Don’t forget to include the thousands who have been convinced they are ”HIV” positive by the 33 or so test kits which claim they are not able to detect “HIV.”

8. Don’t exclude those either who will or have fallen prey to your collective inability to define how “HIV” kills T-cells:

   “The researchers used a mathematical model of the processes by which T cells are produced and eliminated.”

   “Using this they showed that the current theory of an uncontrolled cycle of T cell activation, infection, HIV production and cell destruction - dubbed the runaway hypothesis – was flawed.”

   “They concluded that it could not explain the very slow pace of depletion that occurs in HIV infection.”

   “If the theory were correct, then T helper cell numbers would fall to very low levels over a number of months, not years.”

Although SIV has always been a better model of “HIV, because the chimps that were injected more than 20 years ago never became ill, as they were recently built new retirement homes, at least one group of investigators recently challenged this long-standing belief:

Sodora’s paper provides evidence, using the sooty mangabey SIV natural host, that virally induced CD4 T-cell depletion, by itself, is not sufficient to induce AIDS in a natural host. “When we first observed the dramatic CD4 depletion in all the tissues we examined in these monkeys, we were concerned that they might begin to exhibit clinical signs of AIDS,” said Jeffrey Milush, Ph.D., lead author on the paper. “But after more than six years, we are sure that CD4 depletion by itself does not necessarily result in progression to AIDS”.

Another e.g. regarding how “HIV” causes apoptosis – this is truly laughable!!!!

CROSS PRESENTATION OF CASPASE-CLEAVED APOPTOTIC SELF ANTIGENS IN HIV INFECTION. Pisana Moroni Rawson, Caroline Molette, Melissa Videtta, Laura Alteieri, Debora Franceschini, Tiziana Donato, Luigi Finocchi, Antonella Propato, Marin Paroli, Francesca Meloni, Claudio Mastroianni, Gabriella d’Ettore, John Sidney, Alessandro Sette, Vincenzo Barnaba. Cross presentation of caspase-cleaved apoptotic self antigens in HIV infection. Nature Medicine Vol. 13, No 12, December 2007.

“We propose that these self-reactive effector CD8+cells may contribute to the systemic immune activation during chronic HIV infection. The caspase-dependent cleavage of proteins associated with apoptotic cells has a key role in the induction of self-reactive CD8+ T cell responses, as the caspase-cleaved fragments are efficiently targeted to the processing machinery and are cross-presented by dendritic cells. These findings demonstrate a previously undescribed role for caspases in immunopathology.”

Good grief Charlie Brown! Your list will end up bigger than a phone book if you list all those your hypotheses have “destroyed:” persons such as Rudolf Neuryev, Arthur Ashe, David Acer, Kimberly Bergalis, the Glazer family, a friend of mine named George Tolliver who went of HAART in 2000 and just died of liver cancer, and many many others.

Why don’t you list the evidence in the attached document to show your readers just how many AZT by itself has helped. You can’t go wrong here, because the studies include the number of victims damaged or killed in each trial.