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Peter McDonald | |
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Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:36 PM | |
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<Kary Mullis email address suppressed> | |
Cc: | Robyn Richardson, Attorney Generals Department of South Australia John P. Moore, PhD |
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Appeal at HIV denialist trial in Australia | |
I am assisting the prosecution in an Appeal to the Supreme court in South Australia about a conviction for criminal transmission of HIV. The basis for that Appeal is that HIV does not exist and that the PCR technology is flawed. So in effect the technical basis for identification of virus is on trial. The group of denialists giving evidence are people from Perth [Eliopolous-Papdopolous and Turner] who quote you as indicating that PCR technology is erroneous and misleading. Can I ask you to comment on this statement. The Supreme Court Trial will continue for another few days and I would appreciate your comment as a matter of urgency. I look forward to your response Peter McDonald |
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Kary Mullis | |
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Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:27:22 -0800 | |
To:
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Peter McDonald | |
Cc: | Robyn Richardson, Attorney Generals Department of South Australia David Crowe Christine Maggiore |
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HIV/AIDS/legal proceeding | |
Dear Dr. McDonald: I will not try to convince anyone that PCR can be used successfully to specifically make multiple copies of any nucleic acid sequence that can be uniquely defined by two primer target sequences comprising the termini of the sequence of interest. The veracity of this no longer has anything to do with me. I think this has been confirmed by a huge number of laboratories around the world. The rapid spread of this simple technology would not have occurred had it been ineffectual or flawed in any persistent way. The matter which you are considering, if I understand it correctly, is that the presence or absence of a given nucleic acid sequence, as determined by PCR, can be used as a reliable marker for a living organism in a biological sample. This is done quite often in scientific studies, but that does not mean there could never be exceptions. Remember scientific studies are done with the understanding that findings will be subject to scrutiny from colleagues. A nucleic acid segment very similar in size and terminal base could easily, in a cursory examination, be mistaken for the sequence in question. If this happened in the course of a normal scientific finding, somebody would finally notice it. Papers are retracted all the time. I am not aware of the nature of the evidence you are considering, but when it comes to legal issues, retractions dont necessarily make up for the original mistake, and if I were to offer advice to the courts system of Australia, I would plead that they realize that the AIDS/HIV issue is what is not settled scientifically, not the effectiveness of PCR. I have enclosed a paper I published some years ago which encapsulates my personal opinion concerning the cause of AIDS. I represent a very small minority among scientists who have seriously considered this matter. Many scientific issues which are controversial are often decided in favor of the minority, by experiments. Some of the time the majority gets it right. Prosecuting people based on an unproven hypothesis would seem to be unfair and rash. To cloak the real issues in a veneer of irrelevant technological detail is, in my opinion, a bit of a sham, unworthy of Australians. Sincerely yours,
Dr. Kary B. Mullis [Mullis also attached a 1995 Genetica paper entitled A hypothetical disease of the immune system that may bear some relation to the Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome] |
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Peter McDonald | |
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Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:46:17 +1030 | |
To:
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Kary Mullis | |
Cc: | Robyn Richardson, Attorney Generals Department of South Australia David Crowe Christine Maggiore |
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HIV/AIDS/legal proceeding | |
Many thanks for taking the time to respond to my request. Your views were helpful in terms of confirming the validity of PCR in which you were being quoted as having no confidence in the technology. Overall I think I share with you some scepticism about the jump from scientific observation to a deduction that HIV transmission and pathogenesis is set in stone and becomes a legitimate basis for criminal prosecution. I personally do not believe that it is appropriate to lock people in jail for sexual transmission of HIV but that is the law! I thank you for your assistance and would be happy to keep a dialogue. Kindest regards from down under Peter |
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